Comments on: The Real Difference Between Liberals And Conservatives http://blog.steffanantonas.com/the-real-difference-between-liberals-and-conservatives.htm A Blog on Community, Design and Technology Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:05:52 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.1 hourly 1 By: Locjan http://blog.steffanantonas.com/the-real-difference-between-liberals-and-conservatives.htm/comment-page-1#comment-310 Locjan Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:32:42 +0000 http://blog.steffanantonas.com/?p=146#comment-310 you can get anything on Youtube of course :)<br>Steffan thanks for sharing this you can get anything on Youtube of course :)
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]]> By: Steffan http://blog.steffanantonas.com/the-real-difference-between-liberals-and-conservatives.htm/comment-page-1#comment-288 Steffan Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:36:11 +0000 http://blog.steffanantonas.com/?p=146#comment-288 @Barry - I agree with you completely. I follow the TED blog regularly<br>because it is such a fund of game-changing, dogma-challenging ideas. This<br>video in particular stuck out to me. Thanks for the comment. @Barry – I agree with you completely. I follow the TED blog regularly
because it is such a fund of game-changing, dogma-challenging ideas. This
video in particular stuck out to me. Thanks for the comment.

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.steffanantonas.com/the-real-difference-between-liberals-and-conservatives.htm/comment-page-1#comment-287 Barry Welford Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:57:54 +0000 http://blog.steffanantonas.com/?p=146#comment-287 I'm glad you gave this video some prominence, Steffan. I happened to see it a week ago and was really struck by his ideas. The TED process is a great fund of such ideas. I must admit this one challenged some of my ideas and I eventually agreed with his thesis. I'm glad you gave this video some prominence, Steffan. I happened to see it a week ago and was really struck by his ideas. The TED process is a great fund of such ideas. I must admit this one challenged some of my ideas and I eventually agreed with his thesis.

]]> By: Steffan http://blog.steffanantonas.com/the-real-difference-between-liberals-and-conservatives.htm/comment-page-1#comment-285 Steffan Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:12:10 +0000 http://blog.steffanantonas.com/?p=146#comment-285 Totally OK to disagree (That's what sparks good discussion ;-)). I agree with you that Haidt makes a few sweeping statements, but data is about averages, and he's collected a lot of data. You have to admit that a data set of over 30,000 across many different countries and demographics that all shows the same rends is hard to ignore.<br><br>I've given this some thought and I think that we're looking at the content of this lecture a bit differently - Haidt isn't trying to say that conservatives aren't open to new experiences and travel etc. That would be a bit absurd, right? What he's saying that, in the context of the 5 moral foundations, liberals and conservatives see 3 of the 5 (Ingroup/Loyalty, Authority/Respect and Purity/Sanctity) through very<br>different filters/lenses, and that that difference changes how they see key social issues and how they approach those problems. Openness to experience seems to be the key personality trait, according to Haidt, that seems to be what causes that shift. Also, we shouldn't think about liberal and conservative as strictly "democrat" and "republican"...there's a lot of shades of gray and plenty of people who just consider themselves independent thinkers. There are also many libertarians out there (people who are socially liberal, but vote republican because they are fiscally conservative) Does that make sense? Just trying to shed some light on this. So I guess the first question really is...when you say your friends are "conservative" what does that mean to you? <br><br>I like that you challenged Haidt so boldly and with good reasoning based in experience. It makes for really good discussion. Totally OK to disagree (That's what sparks good discussion ;-)). I agree with you that Haidt makes a few sweeping statements, but data is about averages, and he's collected a lot of data. You have to admit that a data set of over 30,000 across many different countries and demographics that all shows the same rends is hard to ignore.

I've given this some thought and I think that we're looking at the content of this lecture a bit differently – Haidt isn't trying to say that conservatives aren't open to new experiences and travel etc. That would be a bit absurd, right? What he's saying that, in the context of the 5 moral foundations, liberals and conservatives see 3 of the 5 (Ingroup/Loyalty, Authority/Respect and Purity/Sanctity) through very
different filters/lenses, and that that difference changes how they see key social issues and how they approach those problems. Openness to experience seems to be the key personality trait, according to Haidt, that seems to be what causes that shift. Also, we shouldn't think about liberal and conservative as strictly “democrat” and “republican”…there's a lot of shades of gray and plenty of people who just consider themselves independent thinkers. There are also many libertarians out there (people who are socially liberal, but vote republican because they are fiscally conservative) Does that make sense? Just trying to shed some light on this. So I guess the first question really is…when you say your friends are “conservative” what does that mean to you?

I like that you challenged Haidt so boldly and with good reasoning based in experience. It makes for really good discussion.

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